I find it pretty interesting that within the space of about six months we've gone from the choice between two super similar moderate-right leaders to two leaders that are polar opposites. It'll be nice actually having a clear choice.
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I find it pretty interesting that within the space of about six months we've gone from the choice between two super similar moderate-right leaders to two leaders that are polar opposites. It'll be nice actually having a clear choice.
Watching the Rudd press conference....
Someone please pass that sook a tissue
Strife is officially my favorite toy (read: 'Online Bitch') to play with
When will the mainstream media pick up on the "Pinnochio" tag for Gillard? Both were puppets, and both had long noses from the number of lies told.
Gillard is a puppet of the left faction and the AWU, and her blatant lies yesterday about how it was all her idea.....oh please!? Pinnochio.
What does the left faction have to do with anything? It was powerbrokers from the Labor Right (David Feeney, Don Farrell, Bill Shorten, Mark Arbib) who approached Gillard and made sure she had the numbers.
The media is reporting this as something that's never happened b4....Didn't Labor do basically the same thing when they outed Hawke in favor of Keating back in the 90's??
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It's never happened before to a first term PM. And Labor as a whole didn't so much do it to Hawke as much as Keating did personally (on his third leadership challenge, from memory).
Yea..True, Hawke had been in for a while....And I think it was Keating's 2nd go not third...Originally Posted by Strife
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Yep. Plus Hawke was pretty much in an unwinnable position. I still reckon Rudd could have easily won the next election for Labor. He was doing no worse in the polls than Howard was before any one of the elections he went on to win.
Geez you're a fuckwit Strife!
Senator Faulkner's speech October 2005
They maximise their influence by excluding those who disagree, not through leadership and persuasion. Those who defer to the powerbrokers are rewarded with positions in the Party and with employment. This is not factionalism [yes it is!]. It is feudalism, and it is killing the ALP."]
Robert Ray has a say
Robert Ray's speech to the Fabian Society: Are Factions Killing the Labor Party? [Australian Fabian Society] "Firstly, there is the balkanisation of the major factions... Rift lines exist – sometimes because of union differences, sometimes because of personality differences, and sometimes because of murky and long-forgotten events in the past that bear no relevance at all to contemporary divisions. The second trend is hegemony by factions. This is best expressed by the desire to dominate every facet of political activity, thus leaving no opportunity for talented Labor Party members who have no factional allegiance.... The final trend is what I call the Stasi element – a whole production line of soul-less apparatchiks has emerged; highly proficient and professional, but with no Labor soul; control freaks with tunnel-vision; ruthless leakers in their self-interest; individuals who would rather the Party lose an election than that they lose their place in the pecking order." "I often hear complaints about the Party's factional make-up and operation – 'If only we could return to the days when you ran things'."
Umm.. why exactly? Calling me a fuckwit and quoting a couple of opinions that are completely unrelated to anything I said really doesn't help your argument. It just makes you look like an idiot.
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